Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference FAQ

Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference (FAQ)

Human cardiac catheterization was introduced by Werner Forssman in 1929. Ignoring his department chief, and tying his assistant to an operating table to prevent his interference, he placed a uretheral catheter into a vein in his arm, advanced it to the right atrium [of his heart], and walked upstairs to the x-ray department where he took the confirmatory x-ray film. In 1956, Dr. Forssman was awarded the Nobel Prize.

             Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference {I.V.B.C.}
                  *Frequently Asked Questions {FAQ}*

1) What is the Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference (IVBC)?

        The IVBC is a conference for the hopefully rational
discussion of the topic of "Bigfoot" or "Sasquatch", as
it is known in the American Pacific Northwest. The I.V.B.C.
is completely free, non-profit, open to everyone with an
Internet accessable email address, and posts to the conference are
not moderated.  However, successful Anti-Spamming measures have been
implemented to prevent garbage from being sent to list members.
The conference was created as a place where discussion could
take place without the flames found in Alt.Bigfoot, and without
the hostile reaction to the subject of bigfoot found in most
scientific Usenet newsgroups.  The newsgroup Alt.Bigfoot.Research
was created by Silas Salmonberry and is connected to this conference,
but is no longer used very much.  Silas and I are the co-moderators
of the newsgroup and of this conference.  The IVBC also administers
some world wide web sites for various Bigfoot/Sasquatch researchers.
The URLs are mentioned in the FAQ text.

    This conference exists as a paradox, as an open forum
for silent voices... where conference members are encouraged to
share what information they wish to publically share, while not
sharing the information that they don't wish to share. I hope for
the most free exchange of information possible in this conference.

        Contributions of information for the FAQ are welcome, however,
to quote the words of Gordon Rugg {G.Rugg@city.ac.uk}

    "In order to have scientific credibility, information collected
will need to be in the usual scientific form of complete references
to accessible, verifiable  material, preferably in reputable peer-
reviewed journals, and will also need to include material even if
it's unfavourable to the hypothesis that there actually is an
unknown primate out there.  For instance, a reference to an
article in a zoology journal citing find rates for dead large
animals in North American woodland will have more credibility
than an anecdotal quote from an un-named forest ranger, however
good the ranger is.  {Apologies if this is old  familiar ground
to you all - one of the perils of net communications with
people you've never met!}"

The one sacred rule of The Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference:

    For a long time there were no rules at all on the conference.
Then we met Jon Erik Beckjord, and we implemented one basic rule,
which was to banish him and his posts.  We don't like him on the
conference, most of us don't want to read his posts.  Mind you,
he wasn't banished because of his paranormal bigfoot claims, it
was because of his lack of respect for the other conference members,
and excessive flaming.  He has continued to harrass and annoy certain
subscribers, including me, to the present day.  As a new user, you
may be contacted by our "outcast", and he may ask you to forward some
email to the conference.  It's a game to him, please disregard any
posts from him.  We voted him off the conference.  If you do forward
any of Erik's email to the conference, (our only official SIN), you
will be unsubscribed.  Mr. Beckjord may subscribe you to his own
mailing list, "The Sasquatch Insider's Newsletter" as he currently
calls it, and send you email directly.  You may also grow to dislike
Erik Beckjord's email, (most eventually come to this point), and wish
him to stop sending it.  Email him at: {davis@uccomputers.com} and
ask him to remove you from his mailing list.  You can also call him
at home: (510) 848-4070, or visit him at home: 2923 Otis St. Apt.6,
Berkeley, CA 94703-2540.

    If you want to unsubscribe from THIS conference
at any time, email (majordomo@teleport.com) with the command:

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in the BODY of the letter, NOT in the subject line. Please
do NOT send commands to (bigfoot@teleport.com).

2} A) Is the Patterson film real or fake? B) Can I get a copy?

A.} The Patterson film's authenticity is still an open question.

1) Grover Krantz - (From a Summer 1994 Interview, from the TV
show "Encounter's the Hidden Truth") "I went through it, frame
by frame, measuring everything I could on it...  what the body
proportions were... and I can state flatly that there is
no human being alive who could fit into a costume with the
dimensions that are shown there."

"Maybe it's a man whose got his elbows out, and that's the
shoulders...    But, then any man of that height... the
elbows are much to far apart to be the shoulders... there's
one way you could do it"...(I.E. fake the movie)..."You get
a six and a half foot tall man, go one third out on his
upper arm, break it, and introduce a new joint"

2) John Napier - "There is little doubt that the scientific
evidence taken collectively points to a hoax of some kind.
The creature shown in the film does not stand up well to
functional analysis.   ...I could not see the zipper; and I
still can't.  There I think we must leave the matter.  Perhaps
it was a man dressed up in a monkey-skin, if so it was a
brilliantly executed hoax and the unknown perpetrator will
take his place with the great hoaxers of the world.  Perhaps
it was the first film of a new type of hominid, quite unknown
to science, in which case Roger patterson deserves to rank with
Dubois, the discoverer of Pithecanthropus erectus, or Raymond
Dart of Johannesburg, the man who introduced the world to its
immediate human ancestor, Australopithicus africanus."

Loren Coleman and Mark Chorvinsky have also published works
supporting the hoax hypothesis.

B.} Mrs. Patterson owns the rights to the film, and Rene Dahinden
owns the rights to the 952 still photos from the film.  Some
have argued that the film is in the public domain, but my research
has concluded that Mr. Dahinden and Mrs. Patterson still own the
copyrights.  Check out Progressive Research's web site at:
{http://www.teleport.com/~progrsch} for some frames from the film.

3} Why haven't bones or remains of dead bigfeet been found yet?

A.} "Once a bone is divested of its covering of soft tissue and
is exposed to the elements, water begins to leech out the
minerals that gave the bones its rigidity. Once a bone
demineralizes it can be destroyed easily, even by the acidity
of the soil and water that surrounds it. Remineralization
of bone over time resolidifies it and eventually fossilizes it.
Regions like eastern Ohio which have poorly drained soils {clay}
produce extremely fragile bones if any. The clay contributes to
a low pH {acidic} and prevents water from easily percolating out
of the soil and evaporating. The acidic soil/water increases
the rate of mineral leaching."
Source: "What the Bones Tell Us". Schwartz, JH. 1993
{isbn 0-8050-1056-4}
{This FAQ Contribution is from: Todd Hogarth - bign@en.com}

B.} 'Ray Owen, son of a Dakota spiritual leader from Prairie
Island Reservation in Minnesota, told a reporter from {the}
Red Wing {Minnesota} Republican Eagle, "They exist in
another dimension from us, but can appear in this dimension
whenever they have a reason to.  See, it's like there are
many levels, many dimensions.  When our time in this one is
finished, we move on to the next, but the Big Man can go
between. The Big Man comes from God.  He's our big brother,
kind of looks out for us.  Two years ago, we were going
downhill, really self-destructive.  We needed a sign to put
us back on track, and that's why the Big Man appeared".

  "The Lakota, or western Sioux, call Bigfoot Chiye-tanka
{Chiha-tanka in Dakota or eastern Sioux}; "chiye" means
"elder brother" and "tanka" means "great" or "big".  In
English, though, the Sioux usually call him "the big man".
In his book "The Spirit of Crazy Horse," {Viking, 1980}, a
non-fiction account of the events dramatized by the
excellent recent movie "Thunderheart", author Peter
Mathiessen recorded some comments about Bigfoot made by
traditional Sioux people and some members of other Indian
nations.  Joe Flying By, a Hunkpapa Lakota, told Mathiessen,
"I think the Big Man is a kind of husband of Unk-ksa, the
earth, who is wise in the way of anything with its own
natural wisdom.  Sometimes we say that this One is a kind of
reptile from the ancient times who can take a big hairy
form; I also think he can change into a coyote.  Some of the
people who saw him did not respect what they were seeing,
and they are already gone."'

"There is your Big Man standing there, ever waiting,
ever present, like the coming of a new day,"  "He is both
spirit and real being, but he can also glide through the
forest, like a moose with big antlers, as though the trees
weren't there..."'

[This FAQ contribution was from Gayle Highpine - "Attitudes
Toward Bigfoot in many North American Cultures" published
in "The Track Record", #18, Copyright July, 1992 - Portland OR]

C.} They don't exist.

D.} They bury their dead.

E.} They conceal themselves before death, and the remains
    are therefore hidden.

F.} Scavengers eat the remains.

4} Why has nobody ever shot a Bigfoot?/Why hasn't anyone
hunting killed one?

A.} They don't exist.

B.} John Green reports that five or more Sasquatch have been
reported killed on the North American continent, all vague
reports. {Sasquatch: The Apes Among Us, page 188} Victoria B.C.
Cheam Publishing 1978/Seattle, Hancock House, 1978

C.} During the evening of February 6th, 1974, a lady living
near Uniontown Pennsylvania, was sitting at home watching
television.  she heard a noise on her porch and went to
investigate, thinking the dogs were to blame.  She took a
loaded shotgun with her, to scare the intruders.  She turned
on the porch light, opened the door and stepped into the
doorway and was horrified to see a 7-foot-tall hairy ape-like
creature standing only six feet away.  thinking it was about
to attack, for it had raised its arms above its head, she fired
into its middle.  but amazingly, the BHM 'just disapeared in a
flash of light'. {Stan Gordon, "UFO's in Relation to Creature
Sightings in Pennsylvania", a paper presented to the MUFON UFO
Symposium, 1974, pp. 144-5}

    D.} 'One common misapprehesion making the average person scoff
at the possibility of bigfoots is the notion that .. if bigfoots
really exist then "hunters surely would have killed one by now."

  There simply aren't many people who actively, or even occasionally
"hunt for bigfoots" with the intent to kill one.  A hunter, in a
forest, who is equipped and prepared to hunt for any other type of
game animal, is probably not going to be properly equipped or
psychologically prepared to shoot something so intimidating, and
so strangely human. For an opportunistic hunter to solve this
mystery, he must drop the bigfoot on the first shot, then
inconspicuously transport the body home, with no questions or
fears about the consequences of his actions.  Try to imagine
yourself in that situation. Imagine your shock and surprise at
seeing a huge, manlike thing you never really imagined existed in
this world. Then imagine trying to make heaviest of ethical and
logistical decisions while looking down the barrel of a gun at
something of this nature.  Would you flinch ?  Would you hesitate
at all ?

  Hunters, with rare exception, do not shoot at things they have not
set out to hunt that day.  Hunters go hunting for a particular type
of animal.  They are limited by laws as to the type of animal they
can hunt at any particular time of year.  A hunter can be arrested
and successfully prosecuted for poaching, merely for being EQUIPPED
to hunt animals not specifically permitted in that season.  The only
season that a hunter can legally arm himself with the type of weapon
realistically necessary to kill a bigfoot quickly, would be in
deer-gun season.  During deer-gun season you can be arrested, or at
leasted fined, for not wearing bright flourescent orange -- "hunter
orange" (invisible to deer.  Do think bigfoots eyes are more like
deer eyes or human eyes ?).  A game hunter can't legally hunt deer
at night, except by special permission for crop damage control
purposes.

  If you hunt racoon at night you can be arrested for NOT having a
lit lamp with you at all times. Coon hunters typically wear their
night hunting lamps on their hats. It's hard to be sneaky in a
dark forest with lamp on your head.

  People assume that hunting dogs can be used hunt anything and
everything.  The fact is huntings dogs have to be rigorously trained
to follow a particular scent and ignore all others.  The typical
training involves exposing them to body parts of the particular
species from the time they are very young.  It would be difficult
to train a pack of dogs to all consistently follow the scent of
a bigfoot if the dogs have never smelled a bigfoot before.

  I've asked around for many years now, trying to find people who
actually go "hunting for bigfoots."   I've met  several people who
have large enough rifles to do the job right,  and who are not
philosophically opposed to it.  They meet only the most basic
requirements.  I have yet to meet anyone who aggressively pursues
sighting reports in order to hunt and kill a bigfoot.  I've heard
there's a small band of over-equipped, weekend warriors in the
Pac NW who are gung-ho about killing a bigfoot.  However, the
researchers who get the most up-to-date sighting reports don't keep
in touch with them.

  The vast majority of Americans who own guns do not hunt.  Of those
Americans who describe themselves as hunters, the great majority
hunt no more than two weekends per year. Hunters who hunt often,
and year round, are hard to find these days.

  These are all real limitations decreasing the likelihood that a
hunter will kill a bigfoot.  Yet these do not even touch upon
limitations related to WHERE a hunter can hunt.  That's a whole
separate discussion.'
{FAQ submission from Matt Moneymaker mmkr@cris.com}

5} With all the people in the woods owning video cameras today,
Why hasn't anyone photographed one?

A.} There is some sort of "mysterious invisible force" that
prevents proper pictures from being taken.

B.} There are more videos.  An incident in 1995 in Northern
California publicized by the TV show "Hard Copy" could be an
actual video of one.  Another video has recently appeared that
has been shown on the TV show "Paranormal Borderline".

6} Why does the public "evidence" of the possible existence of a
being like "bigfoot", at this point, ONLY consist of legends,
eyewitness testimony, big foot prints, strange sounds in the woods,
and odd smells in the woods?

A.} That's all "they" want us to know, and we only see what "they"
want us to see.

B.} They don't exist.

C.} They are a primate and we just haven't found hard evidence yet.

D.} Other evidence does exist, including blood, hair, and feces.

7}  How big are Sasquatch footprints? Aren't the big footprints fake?
    Wouldn't it be easy to fake them?

A}. This answer is from Dr. W. Henner Farenbach:

'Foot prints are currently one the "hardest" sasquatch data,
since they can be measured in the light of day with a ruler
and are not subject to distortion by the emotional state of the
observer. The data presented here have been generously provided
by John Green from his database with added local records. The
data span 38 years and all the Western U.S. plus Western Canada.
Many of the footprint records pertain to long tracks that were
followed, in some cases, for miles, though still only yielding
one data point for foot length. By implication, the records
have been collected by many hundreds of people, most unknown to
each other, without any knowledge of the "normal" size of a
footprint {which isn't known anyway, but see below}. The list
consists of raw data and has not been culled according to the
"Credibility" of the reporters {a purely subjective value
judgement, that would only lead to a graph of the analyst's
personal preference}.'

N= 551;
Mean= 15.80";
Median= 16";
Range = 4" to 27";
Standard error= 0.131;
Standard deviation= 3.07;
Variance= 9.4223;
Skewness = -0.1930
Kurtosis= 2.1616.

'The footprint data follow a Gaussian distribution curve such
as would be expected from a population. The mean size is
larger than commonly cited estimates. A collection of reports
fabricated over 40 years by hundreds of people independently
would have a non-Gaussian distribution {Sapunov, 1988}.  The
curve is slightly skewed toward the left side of a histogram
{negative skewness}, i.e., slightly more small footprints
than large ones about the mean by virtue of the contribution
of juveniles to the curve, otherwise composed of the two
adult sexes. It has a slightly higher peak than expected at
the center of the distribution {kurtosis}, a result that I
attribute to the overlap of a Gaussian bimodal distribution
for males and females, which appear to show sexual dimorphism,
though not to the degree that a population foot print histogram
would show two peaks. The small standard error suggests
that further additions to the list would make no noticeable
difference. Given these statistics, even a generous handful of
contained fake data would not significantly affect the
distribution.

A demographic statistician, whom I consulted regarding these
data, commented that A) the skewness to the left of the
histogram is in accord with the expected distribution of a
population of mammals and B) that the leptokurtic nature of the
distribution, i.e., the greater peakedness at the mean than is
in accord with a normal distribution, would be partly due to the
outliers (foot prints at 4" and 27") and would, furthermore
argue #against# a pronounced sexual dimorphism. If a large
difference in the mean of foot lengths existed between males
and females, one would expect the combined curve to be
bradykurtic, meaning that the central peak over the mean would
be flattened and would be lower than expected by comparison to
a normal distribution.'

Sapunov, V.B. {1988} A mathematical analysis of "Snowman"
{Wildman} eyewitness reports. Cryptozool. 7: 61-65.

This FAQ submission from Dr. W. Henner Fahrenbach
{503} 690-5239 E-Mail: HennerF@aol.com FAX {503} 690-5563

8} Why can't our satellites see any?

A.} They could, it's just that {a} the satellite images would
need to be enlarged to a suitable size and {b} the images
would need to be of an area which happened to have a visible
Bigfoot in it. The cost and effort of doing a large enough
survey would be enormous. [This FAQ Contribution from
Gordon Rugg {G.Rugg@city.ac.uk}]

B.} They don't exist.

9} How do I know if some "Sasquatches" are around?

A} There are huge barefoot human-like tracks.

B} Every creature in the forest becomes utterly silent.

C} The call of a nightbird is heard during the day,
   or the call of a daytime bird at night.

D} A powerful, indescribable animal smell is present.

E} A roaring scream, a screaming roar, louder and
   unlike any other animal, is heard.

F} Trees 4" thick are being snapped in half by a very
   strong creature that is apparently just out of your sight.

G} A large creature is hitting large sticks against
   large trees, again apparently out of your sight.

H} Animals are found hung in trees, heavier and higher than
   a cougar/mountain lion could carry them.

I} Strange pits or rock-cairns are found in remote places.

J} Trees 4" thick are found broken off, ten feet above the
   ground.

K} Stumps are found in remote places, ripped out of the ground.

L} One apparently speaks to you in your native language.

M} One helps you when you break a leg in the remote wilderness.

10} Why is there a lack of evidence in the winter?

A.} Peter Byrne {tbrp@gorge.net} wrote: "Bernard Heuvelmans
was consulted on this perplexing aspect of the Bigfoot
phenomenon and is unable to come up with an answer other than
that our Homo nocturnus hibernate through the winter months,
but this is not a satisfying answer, according to him none of
the primates of our planet, - us, apes, and monkeys - hibernate
or have ever hibernated."

    "None of the large wild creatures of the Northwest hibernate.
The big animals of the Northwest are mountain lion, deer {various
species}, elk, and bear. None of these hibernate and anyone that
thinks that the bear - our bear, here {in Oregon/Washington},
hibernates, is wrong.  Yes, he may lie up for a awhile when
the temperature drops below zero and the wind is howling.  Our
black bear is not a true hibernator and never has been."

B.} They stay where they are, for they are far better equipped
than man to spend a harsh winter in the wild
C.} They migrate to warmer areas for the duration of the winter.
D.} They hibernate, as bears do from other geographic areas.
E.} They go to another dimension in wintertime.
F.} They don't exist.
G.} There are fewer homo sapiens in the woods in the
winter which means that there are fewer reports.

11} How many Sasquatch are there in the Pacific Northwest?

A.} None (They don't exist)

B.} One, maybe two or three.

C.} A population of at least 2,000 individuals that
would yield a healthy population with enough genetic
variation to suppress strange recessive genes from
being expressed.

D.} Some other population number.

12} What is the "range" of Sasquatch?"

A.} All around the world.

B.} In the high and lonely places, and the low and swampy
    places of the world.

13} Do Sasquatch migrate, or migrate seasonally?

14} Are Sasquatch nocturnal and/or crepescular?

15} What are Sasquatch reported to eat?

    A.} Deer livers, rodents, berries, apples, elk, wild onions,
    roots, grasses, nuts, fish, pine needles, and breakfast cereal.

16} How tall are they?

    A}. They are reported to be from 5 feet tall to 15 feet tall.

17} Where do Sasquatch make their homes?

A.} In caves, or lava tubes, perhaps underwater cave entrances.

B.} In another dimension.

C.} In the bush.

D.} Upriver.

E.} Nowhere, they don't exist.

18} Is anyone doing "real" scientific research into the phenomenon
of "Sasquatch" and/or "Bigfoot"?

A.}  Yes, but we must qualify this affirmative response.

        "Most of the Bigfooters begin by gathering all the
information they can find, then rejecting those reports or
references they deem groundless or unsupportive of their biases.
A few of the major players apply certain standards to weed out
more vacuous or obviously fatuous data.  Others build great
middens of material..." [Robert Michael Pyle "Where Bigfoot
Walks", pp 187 - Houghton Mifflin 1995]

        According to John Green, the primary splits in the
field are: "kill/no kill", and "share/no share".  Green's
split with Rene Dahinden mainly concerns the latter.  According
to Green, it matters to Dahinden "who" discovers bigfoot, and
everytime Green shares his data with people who haven't "earned"
the right, it angers Dahinden.  Dr. Grover Krantz is the
leading exponent of the "kill" school, whereas Peter Byrne
is the leading exponent of the "no kill" school. Ironically,
John Green WON'T share his data with Peter Byrne, but Rene
Dahinden WILL.  To me, the primary split within the field is
between "Native Americans", and "non-natives".

    A primary split outside of the field is between those who
advocate serious study of the Sasquatch phenomenon, and those
who think serious study of Sasquatch is a complete waste of
time, money, and effort.

The taxonomy of Bigfoot Hunters that Dr. Grover Krantz presents
in "Big Footprints" is as follows: (Note: Categories 7 and 8
are not in Grover Krantz's taxonomy, I added them)

1} "Hardcore Hunters" {Those after a body, for whom
according to Dr. Krantz "There will be no second prize"
He assigns four main motives to this group:
    a} Fame
    b} Money
    c} Personal vindication
    d} Scientific knowledge

2} "Novices" {Are naively bumbling along in the belief that
they will find a Bigfoot and that the world will happily
believe them. They either graduate to another category or
drop out of the search.}

3} "Tranquilizers" {Want to capture an animal for proof and
study but believe it should be done with tranquilizing darts
and bullets.}

4} "Recorders" {The recorders gather information, and not
being hunters, usually distribute it freely.  Their data
vary widely in quality, and some really collect accounts
the way other collect stamps.  A few recorders become
chroniclers, such as Green, Heuvelmans, Sanderson, Coleman
and Perez.}

5} "Professionals" {These investigators, Krantz maintains,
"do not want the sasquatch to be proven to exist." They
have made a profession, or at least a reputation, based
on the beast and stand to lose their standing {and for
some, their livelihood}, when it is found.}

6} "The Lunatic Fringe" {Krantz eliminates all those who
mix UFO and paranormal information with hominid reports
as irrelevant or in the category of wackos.}  "Not only
do these people not have both oars in the water, they
don't even have a boat" {Robert Pyle} Yet, like a bad
penny, they keep turning up, so maybe there's something
real fueling the persistance of vision.  They tap into
a common public perception that the government can't be
trusted and that rational science isn't giving us the
whole picture.

7} "Native Americans" I {the author} consider myself part
of this category, even though I'm only part Native American,
and was raised as a white person.  I have developed many
of my own views about bigfoot though.  Oglala Medicine
Man Pete Catches told Peter Mathiessen the following
regarding Bigfoot: "I know him as my brother... I want him
to touch me, just a touch, a blessing, something I could
bring home to my sons and grandchildren, that I was there,
that I approached him, and he touched me." [Gayle Highpine -
"Attitudes Toward Bigfoot in many North American Cultures"
published in "The Track Record", #18, Copyright July,
1992 - Portland OR]  I think we should have complete
respect for the "Sasquatch".  We harm the Sasquatch at
our own peril.  We humans need to be less aggressive and
destructive, towards each other, towards the Sasquatch,
and towards the whole Earth.  I also believe we need to
learn how to communicate better.  I know I might sound
a bit naive and utopian, but I'm really I'm not. I even
think the "K-Dart" described next is a too aggressive
an approach and should be avoided.

8} "The K-Darters" I would place the Bigfoot Research
Project is in an eighth taxonomic category which isn't
quite captured by any of the aforementioned categories.
The project's main aim is to study the creature, and at
the end of a five year grant, write extensively of the
projects goals, successes, and failures,... consequently
it doesn't really matter who proves the existence of
"Bigfoot".  Preferably, the Project will accomplish this
first,... by using computer programs designed to track
and find patterns of serial killers... tracking the
creature by forecasting its whereabouts by computer.
Ground stations are being implemented in target areas,
that use recently declassified military technology, such as
night vision video cameras and motion-sensing devices, that
will alert the Project staff, which will close in using
a helicopter with a FLIR unit {Forward Looking Infra Red}.
Once the staff is in sight of the "Sasquatch", a "K-Dart",
which was developed to obtain skin samples from free-ranging
orangutans, will be fired toward the"Sasquatch".  It is
hoped by the project that a full size biopsy sample,
3mm x 10mm, will be obtained by the "K-Dart", and
immediately frozen, in the field, using new freezing
techniques.  Upon impact the K-Dart cuts a section of
skin that it retains as the dart bounces off the animal.
Negligible bleeding occurs after the sample is
collected and no treatment of the animal is necessary.
It also floats in the event it falls into water.  It
is hoped that enough blood and tissue will be obtained
using this method to perform an adaquate DNA analysis of
the sample. The Project is studying a geographic area
encompassing British Columbia, Idaho, Oregon, Washington,
N. California, and W. Montana.  Agreements have
been reached with the USFS to share collected data.

    The Bigfoot Research Project is directed by Peter Byrne,
F.R.G.S., {He wrote "The Search for Bigfoot: Monster, Myth, or
Man?" - New York, Pocket Books, 1976, he came to this country
from Nepal in 1960, to take over and run the northern California
investigations being backed by Tom Slick.}

This is the group that I am most closely associated with. I am a
member of the Board of Advisors for the Project.  I wholeheartedly
agree with the benign approach expressed by the project's intentions,
however, my private, personal views about "bigfoot" are not to be
interpreted in any way as reflecting the views of the project.
I try not to embarrass the project, given my gratitude at being
invited to join the Board of Advisors.  I go my own way though,
and do not always agree with the project's views.  The project
staff, which works closely with Peter Byrne is composed of Tod Deery
and Deborah Wolman. These three do the actual work of the project.
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The Bigfoot Research Project
PO Box 126
Mount Hood OR 97041 USA
Toll Free in the Pacific Northwest 1{800}BIGFOOT {1-800-244-3668}
Everywhere else, please call in the USA {541}352-7000
FAX: {541}352-7535
Internet Email: (tbrp@gorge.net)
World Wide Web: {http://www.teleport.com/~tbrp}
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Western Bigfoot Society
Ray Crowe, Director
8622 N. Lombard St.
Portland OR 97203
Day/Store: {503}286-6585 Eves/Home:{503}640-6581
Newsletter "The Track Record" available for $20.00 year
{10 issues} $30.00 foreign, post paid.  Four sample issues are
found on the web at: {http://www.teleport.com/~caveman/wbs.shtml}
as well as other BF stuff.  This web site is maintained by the
IVBC.
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John Green
PO. Box 347
Harrison, Hot Springs
B.C. Canada V0M 1K0
{604}796-3206

{He wrote "Bigfoot, On the Track of the Sasquatch",
New York, Ballentine Books, 1973 - This was re-published and
updated in 1980, and it was combined with "Year of the Sasquatch"
and then split into two books, "Book One" and "Book Two", and is
available from Cheam Publishing, Box 374, Harrison Hot Springs
BC Canada V0M 1K0. He also wrote "Sasquatch - The Apes Among Us"
ISBN 0-88839-123-4 Published by Hancock House/copyright 1978
Cheam Publishing.
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Rene' Dahinden
7340 Sidaway Road
Richmond, BC, Can V6W IB8
World Wide Web site: {http://www.teleport.com/~progrsch}
{Wrote with Don Hunter: "Sasquatch/Bigfoot: The Search for North
America's Incredible Creature" Buffalo, N.Y. Firefly Books, 1993}
He owns the copyright to the still frames from the Patterson film.
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Dr. Grover Krantz
Wash. State Univ.Dept. of Anthropology
Pullman, WA 99164-4910
Dr. Krantz's graduate student Ira Walters {irawalters@aol.com} or
{walters@mail.wsu.edu} has set up a web site,
one for sales of Track Casts:
{http://www.iea.com/~waltersm/tracks.htm} and one for the sales
of hominid skull replicas {http://www.iea.com/~waltersm/skull.htm}
G. Krantz has written "Big Footprints: A scientific inquiry into
the Reality of the Sasquatch" Boulder, Colo.: Johnson Books, 1992
He also co-edited "A Scientist Looks at Sasquatch" 20 years ago.
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Todd Hogarth {bign@en.com}
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Fred Bradshaw
Northwest Support Services
15 Murray Place, Space 10
Elma, WA 98541
{360}482-5182
Fax: {360}249-6488
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Lyle Vann
PO Box 412
Dir. Arizona Bigfoot Center
Paulden, AZ 86334-0412
Sunshine Ranch "Rottweillers" {602}636-4982
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Larry & Doris Lund - The "Sasquatch Sleuths"
4019 NE 54th Ave
Vancouver, WA 98661
{360}695-5609 {Write for price list of video/audio tapes}
Is also a distributor for Bigfoot posters from the Patterson
film, which includes a small commentary from Rene Dahinden.}
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Steve Williams
Bigfoot Investigator/Western Bigfoot Society
5515 Poplar Ct SE
Salem OR 97306
{503}391-6384
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New England Bigfoot Info Research Center
Director, Bill Green
21 Benham St. Apt F.
Bristol, CT 06010
{203}582-4752 Fax {203}584-9598 {collect calls NOT accepted}
{Write for free newsletter, new issues are free.}
{Back issues of newsletter #1-14 (except for #3) for $7.00,
single issues $1.75}
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Samuel J. Sherry
Chestnut Ridge Bigfoot Center
RD #1. Box 237A
Ligonier, Penn. 15658
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Ray Wallace
PO Box 125
Toledo, WA 98591
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The Bigfoot Research Group of the Northeast
Chris Julian
PO Box 1252
Sanford, Maine 04073
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Sasquatch/Research
Thomas Steenburg
Unit 701 - 6223 - 31 Avenue NW
Calgary, Alberta T3B 3X2
{403}286-1740
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Rip Lyttle - (301)-270-3152
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Peter Guttilla
1276 West 25th St.
Upland, CA 91784
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Michael G. Jay
Dir. Eugene WBS Branch
540 Rutledge Street
Eugene, OR 97402
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Dr. Gordon Rugg {G.Rugg@city.ac.uk}
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Dr. W. Henner Fahrenbach {HennerF@aol.com}, who works at the
Oregon Regional Primate Center {503}690-5239 has a personal
interest in the matter, not shared in any way by the Oregon
Regional Primate Center. {He periodically teachs a Sasquatch
class at the Sylvania Branch of Portland Community College.}
FAX {503} 690-5563
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Kansas Bigfoot Center
Director, Matt Dennis
PO Box 161101
Wichita, KS 67216
{316}258-1561 {KBCenter@mail.fn.net}
{http://www.fn.net/~kbcenter/kbchom~1.htm}
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Loren Coleman, Research Associate
Muskie Institute
University of Southern Maine
Portland, Maine 04103
{lcoleman@usm.maine.edu}
{Author of *Tom Slick and the Search for Yeti* Boston and London:
Faber and Faber, 1989 and *Mysterious America* Boston and London:
Faber and Faber, 1983}
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Ron Schaffner
P.O. Box 158
Milford, Ohio 45150
{rschaffn@tso.cin.ix.net}
{He is beginning to publish his "Creature Chronicles" newsletter
again}
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Center for Bigfoot Studies {CBS}
10926 Milano Ave.
Norwalk, CA  90650-1638
{714} 351-9034
Founded by Daniel Edward Perez in 1984 [newer phone # {909}351-9034?]
{He wrote "Big footnotes: A Comprehensive Bibliography Concerning
Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman, and Related Beings" Norwalk
Calif.: D. Perez Publishing, 1988}
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Michigan/Canadian Bigfoot Information Center {MCBIC}
Wayne W. King, Director
152 W. Sherman
Caro, MI  48723
{517} 673-2715
Founded in 1970
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Sasquatch Investigations of Mid-America {SIA}
Hayden C. Hewes, Director of Research
1612 Carlisle Ct.
Oklahoma City, OK  73120
{405} 842-6588
Founded in 1976
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Ben Roesch {bz050@freenet.carleton.ca}
Editor, The Cryptozoology Review
137 Atlas Ave.
Toronto ON
Canada M6C 3P4
http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~bz050
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Bigfoot Investigations
(Tom Morris)
1000 Pleasant Valley DR.
Pleasant Hill, CA. 94523
510-930-8123
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Bufo Calvin
BUFO'S WEIRD WORLD
P O Box 5231
Walnut Creek, CA 94596
510-432-8102 (voice and fax)
bufocalvin@aol.com
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The Bigfoot CO-OP {Connie Cameron}
14602 Montevideo Drive
Whittier, CA. 90605
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Northern California Bigfoot Organization
{Robert Everett}
PO. Box 137, Deep Gulch Rd.
c/o Breaburn Ranch
Hyampom, California, 96046-0137
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Eastern Ohio Bigfoot Center
{Don Keating}
PO. Box 205
Newcomerstwon, OH. 43832
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Bigfoot Investigations
1000 Pleasant Valley DR.
Pleasant Hill, CA. 94523
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Kyle Mizokami {kylemi@hooked.net}
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No. Amer. Bigfoot Center
{Mark Francis}
1923 Glenwood Drive
Twinsburg, OH. 44087
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Bigfoot Central
{Cliff Crook}
PO. Box 147
Bothell, WA. 98041
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William Brann
2 Mt. View Dr.
Hudson Falls, NY. 12839
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Bigfoot/Sasquatch Biological Research Center
{Kenneth A. Sayers}
Anderson University
Anderson, IN.  46012-3462
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Intermountain Bigfoot Research Center
2620 S. Maryland Parkway Suite #275
Las Vegas, Nevada, 89109
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Search for Bigfoot
{David J. Byrd}
{503}286-0483
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SSHAP
1300 Dyer ST.
Sprin Dale, AR. 72762
{501}751-4287
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Dennis Stadterman
4772 Seventh Street
New Kensington, PA. 15068-7014
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Cliff La Breaque
10401 East  40 Highway
Independence, Missouri, 64055
{816}737-2177
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Henry Hubben
2500 Harriet Ave. South #1
Minneapolis, MN. 55405
{612}872-1746
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Dr. Jeff Meldrum
Associate Professor of Anatomy and
Affiliate Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology
Dept. of Biological Sciences
Campus Box 8007
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8007
phone (208) 236-4379/fax (208) 235-4570/e-mail: meldd@fs.isu.edu
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Ohio Bigfoot Research and Study Group
Joedy Cook
634 Delhi Ave.
Cincinnati, OH. 45204
{513}251-3964
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Southern Sasquatch Society
{Michael Joiner}
1900 Briar Oahs Dr.
Bryan, TX. 77802
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Progressive Research
Dan Murphy
Dept. 291-720 Sixth Street
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada, V3L 3C5
{604}522-9982
Co-wrote and edited "Bigfoot in the News" with Chris Murphy and
Rene Dahinden.  Is also a distributor for Bigfoot posters from
the Patterson film, which includes a small commentary from
Rene Dahinden} (http://www.teleport.com/~progrsch)
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Days Creek Prod. Corp.
{Smokey Crabtree}
Box 101-C
Fouke, AR. 71837
{501}653-6686
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The Southeast Sasquatch Association
{Henry B. May IV}
PO. Box 344
Boyle, MS 38730
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Lee Trippett
415 East 36th Ave.,
Eugene, OR 97405
{503}344-0459
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Tim the Yowie Man
Bigfoot/Yowie Investigator
C/O ABC Radio 2CN
GPO Box 9994
Canberra 2601
Australia
Email:  tbull@abare.gov.au
Internet:  http://www.pcug.org.au/~stmcdona/tim.html
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Silas Salmonberry - (Who's probably in Indian Country somewhere,
who I miss a great deal.)  Silas is a Kootenai person who inspired
me to create the IVBC, and who created the Usenet Newsgroup
Alt.Bigfoot.Research.  Silas and I were co-moderators of both
the Newsgroup and the IVBC.  We created them as cross-connected
things.  If any of you ever run into Silas, tell him I miss him,
and to drop me a line sometime.  Silas could return as co-moderator
if he ever wished to.  When I last spoke to him Silas had a masters
degree in signal analysis, and was living in Chicago.

19.} Can you recommend any Bigfoot/Sasquatch Books and Periodicals:

A.) All the books mentioned in this FAQ are worth reading.
Some excellent one's not otherwise mentioned in the FAQ are:

"On the Track of Unknown Animals", Bernard Heuvelmans,
New York, Hill and Wang, 1959 {Bernard Heuvelmans has republished
this book at the hefty price of $42.00, available from John Wiley
and Sons, Ltd., Southern Cross Estate, 1 Oldlands Way, Bognor Regis,
West Sussex, UK.}

"Where Bigfoot Walks, Across the Dark Divide", Robert Michael Pyle,
Houghton/Mifflen, 1995

"Bigfoot: The Yeti and the Sasquatch in Myth and Reality"
John Napier, New York, E.P. Dutton, 1973

And there's periodicals:

"Cryptozoology: The Interdisciplinary Journal of the
International Society of Cryptozoology", Tucson, Ariz.

"Cryptozoologia, Number 1, May 1995" is available from:
Square des Latins 49/4 - 1050 Bruxelles  phone 02/647 30 26

20.} What commands does the mail robot {majordomo@teleport.com}
understand?  How do I get old digests/ How do i unsubscribe? {etc.}

A.} Only subscribers can post to the conference. To post to the
conference, send email to: {bigfoot@teleport.com} which will
remail your letter to the 300+ members of the list. You can
subscribe to BOTH the regular and the digest form of the
conference if you wish.  The digest is generated every
Wednesday night at midnight PST, and also whenever the
pending email exceeds 40K. All the past digests are
available to digest subscribers. (See the GET command below.)

To add yourself to the IVBC, send the command:

subscribe bigfoot

in the body of a message to {majordomo@teleport.com}.

To subscribe to the digest version of the IVBC, send the command:

subscribe bigfoot-digest

in the body of a message to {majordomo@teleport.com}.

Below are all the commands ONLY conference (or digest) members
can send in the body of messages to {majordomo@teleport.com}

To get the Conference FAQ at anytime, send the command:

info bigfoot

(or "info bigfoot-digest" if you only get the digest)

To get more HELP with majordomo commands, send the command:

help

Past digests back to December 1995 are available on-line.
To get a list of the digest names, send the command:

index bigfoot-digest

To retrieve a particular digest, for example digest v02.n013,
send the command:

get bigfoot-digest v02.n013

To get a list of conference members, send the command:

who bigfoot

To get a list of digest members, send the command:

who bigfoot-digest

To unsubscribe from the IVBC, send the command:

unsubscribe bigfoot

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FAQ Compiled/Edited by Henry James Franzoni {caveman@teleport.com}
EOF
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Other Bigfoot/Sasquatch Web Sites:

Advocates of Scientific Bigfoot/Sasquatch study

The Bigfoot Research Project

Interview with Peter Byrne

Progressive Research

Ben S. Roesch's Cryptozoology Site

Cryptozoology Homepage

The Kansas Bigfoot Center

"The Search For Bigfoot" (Daniel Godwin's home page)

Sierra Sounds The Bigfoot Recordings (which are for sale)

The Secret Study, (Greg Long's page)

The Shadowlands Bigfoot Page

Bay Area Backroads

Why I Love Bigfoot (Scott Herriot's web page)

The Strange Bookshop Bigfoot Books (which are for sale)

Sasquatch Journal and other Meta-furs

An Interesting page on Australia's Yowie

Bigfoot/Sasquatch Reports Organized Geographically

Gigantopithicus Page

Bigfoot Statue at Willow Creek

Native American Bigfoot Info

Chart of Coastal Indians description of a Sasquatch-like creature

a small portion of Kyle Mizokami's collection of American Bigfoot Legends

Paranormal Bigfoot Researchers

Stan Johnson's page

Skeptical Viewpoints

Fringes of Reason

The Skeptics Dictionary

A listing of general skeptical publications.

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